Q. Sorontar [þ] m. “King of Eagles”
The Quenya name of Thorondor, a compound of the prefixal form soron- of soron “eagle” and the word element -tar “king” used in compounds (SA/thoron; Ety/TĀ, THOR).
Conceptual Development: In the earliest Lost Tales, this character’s name once appeared as ᴱQ. Ramandur (LT2/203) but in this instance it was replaced by ᴱQ. Sorontur “King of Eagles”, which was his usual Qenya name in the early stories (LT1/73, LT2/192). His name appeared in The Etymologies from the 1930s as ᴹQ. Sorontar “King of Eagles”, and these entries are the source for the etymology given above (Ety/TĀ, THOR). This name appeared in Silmarillion revisions and notes from the 1950s (MR/410, WJ/272) and also in The Silmarillion appendix (SA/thoron), but Christopher Tolkien did not include it in the main text of the published version of The Silmarillion.
References ✧ MR/410; MRI; SA/thoron; WJ/272; WJI
Glosses
Elements
| soron | “eagle” | ✧ SA/thoron |
| tar-¹ | “high” |
Cognates
ᴹQ. Sorontar [þ] m. “King of Eagles”
References ✧ Ety/TĀ, THOR
Glosses
Elements
| soron | “eagle” | prefix | ✧ Ety/THOR |
| tar- | “high; king or queen (in compounds)” | ✧ Ety/TĀ |
Cognates
ᴱQ. Sorontur m. “King of Eagles”
References ✧ GL/73; LBI/Thorndor; LRI; LT1/73, 89; LT1A/Sorontur; LT1I; LT2/192, 203; LT2I/Ramandur, Sorontur, Thorndor; PE13/154; QL/86; SMI/Sorontur, Thorndor
Glosses
Elements
| sor(ne) | “eagle” | ✧ LT1A/Sorontur (sor); QL/86 (sorne) |
| tur | “king” | ✧ LT1A/Sorontur |
Cognates
Derivations
ᴱQ. Ramandur m. “Shouter, Screecher”
Early (rejected) name of Sorontur in the earliest Lost Tales (LT1/89), glossed “Shouter” or “Screecher” (QL/79; PME/79), perhaps some agental formation from the verb rama- “to shout”. It also appeared as Ramandor and Ramandorin (QL/79).
See Q. Sorontar for further discussion.
References ✧ LT1/89; LT1A/Makar; LT1I/Sorontur; LT2/203; LT2A/Ramandur; LT2I/Ramandur, Sorontur; PE13/105; PME/79; QL/79
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Elements
| rama- | “to shout, sound loud, bray, blare” | ✧ QL/78 | |
| ᴱ√RAMA | “*shout” | ✧ LT1A/Makar | |
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