Q. Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva loc. “House of Past (or Departed) Mirth”

Q. Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva, loc. “House of Past (or Departed) Mirth”

The Early Qenya name for the “Cottage of the Lost Play” from the 1920s reappeared in some later notes from the late 1940s and early 1950s (PE17/64; PE21/69, 80). In one of these places the name was translated “House of Past (or Departed) Mirth” and was said to be another name for Imladris (PE21/80). It is a combination of mar “house”, vanwa “lost” and the possessive-adjectival form of tyalië “mirth”. It is remarkable that this early name remained the same in Late Quenya as it was conceived after Tolkien finished The Lord of the Rings.

See ᴱQ. Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva for further discussion.

References ✧ PE17/64; PE21/80

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mar(da) “house, dwelling, residence, mansion, a thing or place dwelt in, home” ✧ PE17/64 (mar); PE21/80 (Mar)
vanwa “gone, lost, departed, vanished, past, over, no longer to be had, passed away, dead” ✧ PE17/64; PE21/80
tyalië “mirth” possessive-adjectival ✧ PE17/64 (tyalieva); PE21/80 (Tyaliéva)

ᴹQ. Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva loc. “Cottage of the Lost Play”

Reference ✧ PE21/69 ✧ mar vanwa tyaliéva

Elements

mar “home, dwelling, house, habitation; earth” ✧ PE21/69
vanwa “gone (for good), departed, vanished, lost, past, over, dead” ✧ PE21/69
tyalie “play, game, sport” possessive-adjectival ✧ PE21/69 (tyaliéva)

ᴱQ. Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva loc. “Cottage of the Lost Play”

The place where the earliest Lost Tales were told (LT1/14), a combination of mar¹ “dwelling”, vanwa “lost” and the adjectival form of tyalie “play” (LT1A/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva).

References ✧ GG/15; LRI/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; LT1/14, 28; LT1A/Eldamar, Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; LT1I/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; LT2A/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; LT2I/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; PE14/47, 79; PE15/7; RSI/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva

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mar¹ “house, home, dwelling (of men); -land, the Earth” ✧ LT1A/Eldamar; LT1A/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; PE14/47
vanwa “gone, on the road, past, over, lost” ✧ LT1A/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva; PE14/47
tyalie “play, game” adjectival ✧ LT1A/Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva (Tyaliéva); PE14/47 (tyaliéva); PE14/79 (tyaliéva)

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