Q. relative pronouns grammar.

Q. relative pronouns grammar.

The basis for most relative pronouns is the root √YA. However, the most common relative pronoun is i, which is probably related to the definite article. The word i is frequently used to introduce a subordinate clause:

The relative pronoun i is very generic. It can refer to a person (“who”) or a thing (“what”), it can be the subject of the subordinate clause (“who art in Heaven”) or the object (“what you judge good”), and it can be singular (“who”) or plural (“those”). Though it superficially resembles the definite article, it is distinct from it, as shown in the fourth example which has both a definite article i “the” and a relative pronoun i “who”. It seems that this generic relative i is indeclinable, however, which is a strong indication that it is related to or derived from the definite article, which is likewise indeclinable.

In cases where the relative pronoun is declined, we generally see either ya (neuter) “what” or ye (personal) “who”, as in:

Tolkien discussed the personal (“who”) vs. impersonal (“what”) relative pronouns in late 1960s notes having to do with hands and fingers (VT47/21):

who rel. per. ye, pl. i
that rel. imp. ya

Probably these relative pronouns were developed from √YA in the same pattern as personal se vs. impersonal sa. Note that the plural form of ye was i, which could be declined as well: ablative plural illon or genitive ion (VT47/21). No plural form was given for ya, but it may be *yai (compare tai; hat-tip to Luinyelle for this suggestion). It is not entirely clear when you should use declinable ya/ye vs. indeclinable i. There is at least one example of ya used as a relative pronoun by itself, without any inflections:

One interesting derivative of √YA is the (adverb?) “when”, used conjunctively in the sentence yá hríve mene, ringa ná “when winter comes, it is cold” (VT49/23). This could be a temporal relative adverb, analogous to demonstrative “now” and “then”. In the previous version of the sentence from VT43/28, Tolkien used instead of ya: sí ar lúmesse firuvamme (VT43/27) perhaps: “now and at the hour when we will die”. This is just a guess, though, since the variations of ya vs. could be driven by other factors like stress or Tolkien’s conceptual vacillations.

Origins of relative pronouns: Tolkien described the semantic development of the root √YA as follows:

ya-, used in Quenya as stem of relatives (being originally a demonstrative referring back to something behind, or previous in time) (PE17/66).

Indeed, there are also derivatives of this root having only to do with the past, such as yára “old”. But as a pronoun it seems to be used mainly as a relative pronoun, with the possible exception of ᴹQ. yana “that (the former)”. As noted above, personal ye “who” probably developed from impersonal ya by analogy with personal se vs. impersonal sa. As evidence of this, there is one place were ya might be used personally, hinting that ya was the default:

As noted above, indeclinable relative pronoun i is probably derived from the same root as the definite article i. It is tempting to assume that it gained this function by analogy with the plural i of personal relative pronoun ye. However, in Sindarin i is both the article and relative pronoun as well, so I think it is more likely that this dual function was of more ancient origin.

Conceptual Development: In the Gnomish Lexicon (GL) of the 1910s Tolkien gave ī as the root of relative pronouns:

ī- root of relatives. as in í indefinite indeclinable relative particle (GL/50).

Such relative pronouns might have appeared in the contemporaneous text Sí Qente Feanor as suggested by Christopher Gilson (PE15/35):

However, in the Early Qenya Grammar (EQG) of the 1920s Tolkien gave ya as the (indeclinable) relative pronoun:

The indeclinable relative pronoun is ya, which is either to be understood in any relation, or, very frequently, is defined by demonstrative or pronominal or adverbial words inside the relative clause (PE14/54).

This pronoun did appear later in the 1920s in a declined (r-dative) form:

Both i and ya continued to appear thereafter, ya declined and i not, with the caveat that in the 1940s, i became in before vowels: “A clause in such cases is introduced by i, before vowels in (PE22/118)”. The personal form ye only appeared in Tolkien’s very late writings, and probably developed only after Tolkien abandoned masculine and feminine pronouns and switched to a distinction between animate (personal) and inanimate (neuter).

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ᴹQ. relative pronouns grammar.

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ᴱQ. relative pronouns grammar.

Reference ✧ PE14/54 ✧ for example: en ilta n·ner ya me·{nyeliel >> qense >> qensiēma >>} qetsime ka húyo ne hwa·telpe {nye >>} ie-rautanēma ompa va húyo “thereupon in came the man {from whom we heard >>} by whom we were told his money had all been stolen from him”

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